A number of reloading Gurus have stated that Reloaded 25 is one of the ideal powders for reloading the 257 Weatherby Magnum. The .257 WBY comes closer than most calibers in being able to fulfill multiple roles well. Stories abound of the .257 Weatherby taking all sorts of game, including Cape buffalo. There are several ways to deal with this (after a quick search on the internet). With that said, the handloader will be pressed to match the Weatherby ammunition in terms of velocity and accuracy. They were nice. I loaded up some ammo and I was off to the range again. My continued interest in the chambering lay with its heavier bullet loadings for hunting deer or antelope. It represents the best of what the utilitarian quarter-bore has to offer. Thks Cheers RJ . It is the rare breed of rifle that does multiple tasks as well or better than a specialized firearm. I explained my problem to him and my belief that the resizing die might have been cut too deep. Your 1/2' groups and 3400 fps velocities reflect my findings. It was derived from the .300 H&H case shortened to 2.545 inches and given Weatherby’s signature double-­radius shoulder. This is a Weatherby Vanguard rifle with a Vortex 4x12 scope. I think any of the .257s would make a great deer/antelope gun. Today, those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges. Beyond 650, all predators and prairie dogs beware! Subtropicalabama. I explained that I ran the press ram all the way up, screwed the resizing die all the way in until it touched the shell holder, turned the resizing die just a little bit more to assure intimate contact between the die and the shell holder, and then locked everything down. I resized a single .257 Hornady brass case and then tried the empty case in the Ruger No. Your mileage may vary, but that won’t change my opinion. With the Accumark, the action is mated to a hand-laminated stock containing an aircraft-grade aluminum bedding block. Here’s one on a Mark V in .30 06. To my great surprise, the Weatherby brass wouldn’t chamber, either. Yeah, that could be it. 1; 2; 3 > » $3.40 PPR (1) Weatherby B257100TTSX Barnes 257 Weatherby Magnum 100 GR Barnes $ 68.00 (0) Weatherby MK-V ACUM PRO 257WBY 26B $ 2,249.00 (0) Weatherby MK-V ACU ELITE 257WBY 26B $ 2,549.00 (0) Weatherby Mark V Weathermark LT 257 Wthby Mag 3+1 26" Green w/F $ 2,099.00 (1) WBY VANGUARD 257WBY 26 … That night, I loaded 70 rounds of .257 Weatherby Magnum, all with the 100-grain Sierra jacketed softpoint bullet, and I’m headed to the range later this week to test for accuracy. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. That would account for both brands of brass not chambering. The kicker here is you’ll need to have a barrel with either a 1:7.5- or 1:8-inch twist. They sent me three empty new cases. Me and a friend of mine had two rifles built in 6.5x270 wby.....I absolutely love it! Compare. Hi Guys Please share your 257 Weatherby mag BEST LOADS - any you have from 70 gr -120 gr-ers . Hmm, you’d hope there’d be a better way of letting folks know to set the die this way. .257 Weatherby Magnum Minimum Maximum Bullet Weight: 90 gr Case Trim Length: 2.539" S.D. Guys use the .257 on everything from varmints to elk. How To Build a Glock From an 80 Percent Frame. Call me if that doesn’t work, but I know it will. New bullet construction technology has wrought a quiet revolution in hunting and redraws the line of minimum-­caliber standard for certain game animals. It is one of the original standard length magnums developed by shortening the.375 H&H Magnum case to approx. But the Weatherby brass had initially chambered easily in the Ruger. Guess we can hope they read your blog, because that’s probably about as much dispersion that technique is going to get…. Many sources quote the .257 WBY as Weatherby’s personal favorite. The flutes increase barrel surface area to dissipate heat and reduce the weight associated with the No. This day and age finds most rifles created for specific tasks in mind (i.e., varmints, brush, sheep, dangerous game, tactical, etc.). Posts: 1,439. Bullet weights for the .257 Weatherby range in weight from 75-120 grains, with the most popular for big game hunting weighing 100-120 grains. Adopted during the great arms race at the end of the 19th Century, the 6.5mm Arisaka would... James Tarr tests seven 7.62x39mm loads fired from a 1969 Polish AKM into gel blocks to see... Federal Premium's new Personal Defense Force X2 copper-plated 00 FX2 buckshot pellets are... Grizzly Cartridge Co.'s 185-grain jacketed hollow-point load is sure to be a favorite with... Give a Gift   This is my … With a 300-yard zero, the difference in favor of the Weatherby is around 3 inches when it comes to bullet drop. Motorcycles, Scooters, Guns, Adventures, Opinions, and More. “Trust me on this. First fielded during World War I, the Browning Automatic Rifle or BAR went on to serve through... Second Amendment Foundation - August 22, 2020. German Sniper Rifles of World War I and II. 0.257" Accurate: Max: 66.6 gr : 62,146 : 90 gr BK (Sierra) WIN WLR: 4350 (Accurate) Weatherby: 2.539" 3.150" Starting: 60.4 gr : 0.257" Accurate: Max: 67.1 gr : 61,489 : 90 gr BK (Sierra) WIN WLR: 5744 (Accurate) Weatherby: 2.539" 3.150" Starting: 34.5 gr : 0.257" Accurate: Max: 46.0 gr : 59,189 : 90 gr: GMX (HDY) WIN WLR: MagPro (Accurate) Weatherby: 2.539" 3.180" Starting: 67.5 gr : 0.257" Accurate: Max: … Any 100gr bullet doing 4000 will cause damage, but the SMK is a match bullet. Looking forward to reading your reloading results. My Ruger did not want to chamber the ammo I had loaded for it. The Fifth U.S. Cutaway drawings of the rifle remind one of an artillery breechblock in the way that the lugs torque into place when the bolt handle is lowered. and a Mark V Sporter in .270 Weatherby. I’ve got rounds loaded with IMR 4320, IMR 4064, IMR 7828SSC, and H-1000 propellant at both the low and higher ends (but not the max) of the charge spectrum. I use the Barnes CL-2 as the Instructions say!! Easy to load for. The .257 and .270 Weatherbys are based on shortened .300 H&H Magnum cases, and the 6.5-300 is based on the full-sized .300 Weatherby Magnum. Roy Weatherby would surely be pleased by how far the cartridge has come. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. We hear this a lot on all the Weatherby cartridges, especially the .257 Weatherby. Lucky you were persistent enough to call and get the secret, but what about everyone else? Just like with the Hornady brass, the Ruger’s action wouldn’t close on any of the resized and polished brass (Hornady or Weatherby). All Rights Reserved. Joined Jan 9, 2011 Messages 70. I believe in the company and their cartridges. Recommend to do this OUTDOORS! The rifle’s chamber hadn’t shrunk. It was still tough to chamber. The first thing that comes to my mind with the mention of the 257 Weatherby magnum is speed and accuracy. Campfire Regular. Thanks . … Prev. (Everything Ive shot with it) The new Carbonmark in the .257 Weatherby is an awesome rifle all the way around. Earlier this week, I decided to load up a bunch of .257 Weatherby Magnum ammo and work on finding the secret sauce for an accurate load. That night, I loaded 70 rounds of .257 Weatherby Magnum, all with the 100-grain Sierra jacketed softpoint bullet, and I’m headed to the range later this week to test for accuracy. When a 130-grain bullet exits the barrel of a nine-pound rifle in .270 Winchester at 3100 fps, 14 ft-lbs of recoil is … This was not a marriage made in Heaven. 375 H&H The Real KING of 375 's BP-B2 Re: 257 Weatherby Mag - BEST LOADS ! The .257 Magnum is one of the early Weatherby calibers, designed in 1944. What is not to love about a 120-grain bullet traveling at over 3,300 feet per second (fps)? The .257 Weatherby was one of Roy Weatherby’s earliest creations and quickly became his favorite. I thought I had screwed up by reloading the brass directly without running the brass through the resizing die first, so when I got home I resized the brass. Everyone needs to follow the ExhaustNotes blog! Weatherby claims that the Vanguards are the fastest, flattest shooting rifles on the market. |   The barrel is hand-lapped and free-floated within the stock. At 400 yards, the .257 is ­carrying 1,400 to 1,600 foot-pounds (ft.-lbs.) I called Hornady to complain. The place I buy my components is Phillips Wholesale in Covina, California. I resized all my brass (both the Weatherby and the Hornady brass), tumbled it until the stuff glistened, and then tried to chamber it. Oct 29, 2009 #2 My .257Wby is for rockchucks. The .25-caliber bullets I used, though, were not designed for the very high velocities the .257 Weatherby attains, and they were disintegrating in flight. One Weatherby chambering I always wanted but didn’t own yet was the .257 Weatherby. With the Accumark coupled with the potent, flat-shooting .257 WBY, the tandem is quite versatile as a sheep rifle or at dispatching coyotes or other varmints. That would get messy. Is SIG Sauer's P365 9mm the Perfect Carry Gun? [Re: REMINGTONJIM] #9109527 08/19/14: Joined: Jan 2014. Stay tuned. Then I thought maybe it was the resizing die. The Nosler Reloading Data web page also notes that, for the 100 grain projectile loading, RL25 delivered the best accuracy from all the other powders tested. “Won’t that break the press?”. “What kind of a press are you using?” Bill asked. Go. John > your 257 Weatherby load information certainly confirms my posted/founded reloading results. Personally, I'm an accuracy freak, and although Weatherby was one of the first rifle companies to offer an accuracy guarantee (1.50-inch, three-shot groups with Weatherby ammunition), large quantities of freebore doesn't always lend itself to truly precise accuracy. This has eased over time with Hornady offering loads and Remington providing limited runs of rifles. The cartridge shines now that bullet technology has caught up to its velocity. I will post some numbers in the next blog. The heart wants what the heart wants, and my heart wanted a rifle chambered for the .257 Roy. Factory 115 grain ammo is shooting 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. Subtropicalabama. I never had one so any info would be appreciated. Re: 257 Weatherby? I also have two other recent Weatherbys, a Mark V Ultra Lightweight in .240 Wby. Ackman. 3 contoured barrel. 0.195 Bullet Style: BND SPIT Primer: Fed GM215M B.C. I just got a 257 weatherby in a Rem 700 and was wanting to get loads for coyote's. He reduced case length from 2.850” to 2.549”, straightened the side walls, and added his double radius shoulder which was perhaps more showmanship than substance. All its attributes point the cartridge to maximum efficiency and effectiveness, unique to most of the magnums in close competition to it. The good news is that Lilja, Bartlein, Krieger, Proof Research and others offer barrels with the twist rates to handle emerging heavy .25-­caliber bullets. Wow – what gun store has all that obscure caliber reloading stuff on its shelf?? I measured the brass and it seemed to me it was right at the max dimensions. I prefer the 25-06 over the .257 weatherby only because its more friendly to the pocketbook. The rounds just wouldn’t chamber easily and closing the action was difficult. There was nothing wrong with their brass; I just didn’t know the secret handshake to resize it properly. It looks like an impressive little round – maybe in your next blog post some numbers? Recoil of a rifle in .257 Weatherby Magnum is about the same as that of a rifle of the same weight in .270 Winchester. I wondered if the Ruger had an undersized chamber. Current loads include options like the 80-grain Barnes TTSX screaming along at nearly 3,900 fps, the 110-grain Nosler AccuBond and Hornady ELD-X rounds pushed downrange at nearly 3,500 fps and the 120-grain Nosler Partitions traveling at an impressive 3,300 fps. I probably spent $50 for that box of brass. The .257 WBY was one of Roy Weatherby’s earliest cartridge creations. The 1:10-inch barrel twists (the norm now with Weatherby rifles) or 1:12-inch twists (more popular in early .257 WBY rifles) will not stabilize .25-caliber bullets weighing over 120 grains due to length issues. (Smelly! Weatherby puts in writing a .99-MOA guarantee for three rounds from their rifles when Weatherby factory or premium ammunition is used. I made a mental note to call Hornady and get my money back. As far as Weatherby's philosophy of fast killing through high velocity went, the .257 achieved this goal in spades. Silver $$ Contributor. IMR7828 is certainly the 'kats meow' in the accuracy and highest velocity departments. The boys at RCBS know their business. It is reputed to have been Roy Weatherby's favorite cartridge. Go another 90 degrees in on the resizing die. The 54-degree bolt handle lift combined with its smoothness makes it one of the fastest bolt actions to manipulate. Joined: Jan 2014. The Weatherby Vanguard is one heck of a rifle for the money and chambered for the .257 Weatherby Magnum only makes it better. While it may seem incredulous, reviews and experience tend to back up that statement. Weatherby is coming out with a new line of Vanguard rifles in 2012 that fix all of the issues I have with these guns and guarantee sub-MOA accuracy from every rifle in the line, thus removing the line between their “cheap” Vanguard series and the sub-MOA series. bump. A hindrance to the .257 WBY gaining more widespread popularity versus its cult-like following since its introduction was the proprietary nature of the chambering only being found in Weatherby rifles and ammunition. The .257 Weatherby Magnum cartridge is amazing in itself, and the rifles being produced in this chambering continue to amaze me with their accuracy when using factory ammo. I’d have to send the rifle back to Ruger to have the chamber recut, and hope they didn’t ding up the stock or anything else in the process. The.257’s Pedigree Designed in 1944—a year before Roy Weatherby went into the commercial gun business—the.257 Weatherby Magnum is a.25-caliber belted bottlenecked cartridge. The older Weatherby rifles also had 3/4-inch of freebore, but the throating of all Weatherby rifles was changed in 1967 - 1968 to about 3/8-inch. 1. Hmmm. However, due to lower ballistic coefficients of these bullets, velocity (and therefore energy) is shed more quickly. Deer would be in the wheelhouse. And the 6.5 Creedmoor, too. It was derived from the .300 H&H case shortened to 2.545 inches and given Weatherby’s signature double-­radius shoulder. Indiana Jones: Part III (Xi’an and the Terra Cotta Soldiers), Product Review: Marshalltown Grooving Trowel, Favorite Baja Hotels: Mulegé’s Historico Las Casitas. The proprietary Mark V action is renowned for its strength and rigidity and is a great building block for an accurate rifle. The stock is fitted with a Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad. Damn, I thought. There is a little more but not enough to worry about. I’ve got the case resizing thing addressed, but the bullets (even the heavier ones) are still breaking up in flight. Dec 2, 2020 #15 B. Bully Well-Known Member. He officially introduced it in 1948, but he had been experimenting with it since 1944. If your accuracy is falling off and all you have done is shoot Barnes (Like I do in all 4 of my Weatherby's) you most likely have a Copper build up or fouling issue. Then I got busy on other things and the Ruger sat in the safe for a year. As such, it dwarfs its siblings. Much of this is derived from the popularity and mission focus of precision rifle matches that stretch engagement distances to beyond realistic expectations for harvesting most game. Out of stock. If the resizing die was cut too deep, the brass would be too long after resizing, and that would result exactly in what I was experiencing:  The resized brass wouldn’t chamber. It is one of the most popular Weatherby calibers, combining very high velocity, flat trajectory, and tolerable recoil. Initially due to the cartridge's high velocity the cartridge exhibits less bullet drop than most other cartridges. Many sources quote the .257 WBY as Weatherby’s personal favorite. Weatherby’s arguments of high velocity and hydrostatic shock seem validated. Thread starter oldfamily; Start date Nov 28, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . 1s chambered in .257 Weatherby Magnum, for me it was a no-brainer:  I had to get one. You can’t break that press.”. Interested in other Weatherby stories specifically? 1. Hmmm. I would like to explode them like prarie dogs! The nine-lug Mark V was introduced in 1958. That’s not conducive to hunters, to say the least. The .257 WBY was one of Roy Weatherby’s earliest cartridge creations. I’ll report on what works best in a subsequent blog. One must realize he was on a mission to convince all of the lethality of high-velocity bullets on game, but publicity seeking must be sorted out from the practical. I met Roy Weatherby in person and I shoot and hunt with Weatherby rifles. Read the first blog on the .257 Weatherby Ruger No. Oldest M2 Browning .50-Caliber MG Still in Service? As it turns out, so do the folks at Hornady. Son of a gun, the Hornady brass still wouldn’t allow the action to close. You know how that goes…sometimes life gets in the way of having fun. Accuracy, as you might imagine, was atrocious. This puppy has a longer barrel and that extra length is imparting too much velocity, I think. “That’s where it’s happening,”  Bill said. It is a hunting cartridge and has not been, for the most part, adapted into any target shooting discipline. I’m a big time Weatherby fan, and I make no apologies for that. Subscriber Services. The stock pattern provides a solid cheekweld and helps to dampen felt recoil. The Weatherby TriggerTech trigger tested at 3.5 pounds on my RCBS gauge with no creep. I may post more about it today or tomorrow, but I’m on a YooHoo safari later today and that is taking priority. And I’m looking forward to seeing what this rifle will do, Larry. I’m hunting deer next month and I may take this rifle, but I’m still not there with the load yet. The Vanguard rifles deliver tremendous firepower, insane accuracy, and an overall excellent shooting experience. I’m also a big Ruger fan, and in particular, I’m an admirer of their No. 257 Weatherby Mag Accuracy Test With A Boom - YouTube Shooting at 100M With A Little Explosion At The End. For those that insist on the highest BC, private enterprise has risen to the challenge. My goal of having a braced pair of Accumarks with one chambered .340 WBY and other in .257 WBY was finally achieved. World War II German Elefant Tank Destroyers, SAF, Defense Distributed Win Court Victory in 3D Gun Case, Japanese 6.5x50mm SR Arisaka — Before the Creedmoor, 7.62x39mm Gel Test - 7 Loads Put to the Test, Federal Force X2 Personal Defense Shotgun Buckshot, Grizzly Cartridge Co. 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